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#52 Ancestors Week 33 – “Household Legend” | The Global Today

There is a whopper of a “Household Legend”  that has been circulating within the Marr household for hundreds of years. Household historians, genealogists and fortune seekers have been attempting to show their connection to the Earl of Mar, and declare their stake in huge land holdings within the UK. Years in the past, I discovered a discover in my grandmother Jean Marr Park’s outdated papers. I posted it on ancestry the place it has been shared over 200 occasions, and reposted much more.The unique is in a file in storage, and I am too lazy to go looking for it in the meanwhile. I will put up a transcript of the entire thing after the soar. Scroll by way of when you would fairly simply learn why the descendants of Lawrence Marr (my sixth nice grandfather) are satisfied he was the rightful inheritor to the Earldom.

Here is the article (in italics) which appeared in The Detroit Genealogical Society E-newsletter by Eva Murell Harmison. Ms. Harmison was an editor for The Detroit Society For Genealogical Analysis Journal all through the ’60’s and early ’70’s. 

Calling The Marr Households if Early New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Canada, Michigan On September 4, 1874 this discover appeared in a Lansing, Michigan newspaper: “Marr Household Conference, September 1, 1874: On Tuesday afternoon, representatives to the variety of 26 held a gathering on this metropolis on the Chapman Home and shaped a state group for the aim of proving their proper to the Marr property in Scotland… the assembly Tuesday introduced collectively uncles, aunts, nephews, and nieces who had not seen one another for years..” So far as the author is aware of, this was the one assembly held. It appears evident that it was sparked by the descendants of Lawrence Marr. Knowledge on this household seem in quite a few sources, however the “Marr Household Chart,” by William Value Marr (1919) – a replica within the Library of Congress – present the household:

LAWRENCE(1) MARR is “believed to have gone from Scotland to Eire, after which to America” in 1736; he might have settled in Hunterdon Co., New Jersey first, then moved to Higher Mt. Bethel Twp., Northampton Co., PA the place quite a few the household lived till 1800. His youngsters had been: John, b. 1741; David, b. 1743; Alem; Lawrence, b. 1748; Joseph, b. 1750; William b. 1751.

DAVID (2) MARR, b. 1743; died shortly after 1800; m. Sarah —. David was an early pioneer of Lengthy Level, Ontario and an in depth account of him and a few of his household is given within the historical past of the world. He settled on “Marr’s Hill” in Woodhouse initially of 1800. Kids of David and Sarah had been: Mary, b. 1764; Ann, b. 1767; Elizabeth, b. 1769; Sarah, b. 1771; Lawrence, b. 1773; Eleanor, b. 1775; Susanna, b. 1777; Rachael, b. 1779; Martha, b. 1782, David, b. 1784; Margaret, b. 1786; Judith, b. 1788 and David, b. 1790.

JOSEPH (2) MARR, b. 15 June 1750; d. 18 Sept, 1796 at Northumberland Co., PA; m. 1776 Susanna Value, daughter of David and Hannah (Frampton) Value. Joseph moved from Mt. Bethel to Milton, PA in 1792. Kids of Joseph and Susanna had been: Mary, b. 1775; Hannah, b. 1777; David, b. 1779; William, b. 1782; Joseph; and Alem, b. 1787.

WILLIAM (2) MARR, b. 1751, stated to be buried in Cherry Valley PA; m. Ann — and lived in Mt. Bethel, PA. Information are sketchy. It’s thought, however not proved, that *William was the daddy of the Marr brothers who emigrated to Markham, York Co., Ontario in 1801. The 4 brothers had been: William, who died in 1862 aged 92 years; Joseph; John who died in 1808; and Alem. The petition of John Marr from Stamford “humbly sheweth that your petitioner got here into the province about two years in the past from Pennsylvania with three of his brothers and their households and together with his mom and sister (who’re since married) who constituted your petitioner’s household, his father being deceased. That your petitioner has a yoke of oxen, et cetera… and prays your Excellency to provide him a Lot in Markham for quick settlement. Granted Nov. 9, 1801.” One other supply mentions a James and Mary Marr of Mt. Bethel, PA, who additionally went to Canada and settled in Markham Township. Please contact this author in case you are linked with the William Marr department.

THOMAS (2) MARR, b. 1753 is claimed to have died enroute to Canada. He had lived at Mt. Bethel, PA. Charles S. Marr, elected Secretary of the Assembly in Lansing, Michigan was a grandson of this Thomas whose youngsters had been: John; Richard, b. 1778; Lawrence; and Michael Loomis.

It seems that in all probability these people who attended the Marr Conference in Lansing had been both descendants of the above individuals or of different brothers and sisters, or shut relations. These on the conventions had been: MICHIGAN: CHARLES S. MARR, Battle Creek; DANIEL R, MARR, Dowagiac, CORNELIUS M. CAMERON, son of ELIZABETH MARR, Flint; ERASTUS R,. MARR, Caro, Tuscola;  JESSIE my gg- grandfather , EOS, HARLAN, and CRYUS, Howell, Livingston County; MRS. EUNICE MARR BUTLER, Waterloo, Jackson Co.; PARKER MARR and P.O. NILES, Berrien Co./ A.N. RUNDIO and spouse; ALBEAN BUTLER, son of EUNICE MARR BUTLER; Adrian; J.W. MARR, Edwardsburg, Cass Co.; GEORGE MARR, Hickory Corners, Barry Co. ILLINOIS: DENNIS MARR, Waukegan; DAVID CAMPBELL and spouse, Durand; and HARRIET KETCHUM, Rockford. IOWA: JAMES F. MARR, Fort Madison; and J.W. Cushman, Sheridan, Cucas Co. WISCONSIN: R.P. MARR, Kenosha. INDIANA: DAVID MARR and P.O. ANGOLA, Steuben Co. LOUISIANA: J.M.B. TUCKER, husband of CALEDONIA MARRS, Natchitoches. CANADA: JOSEPH MARR, Woodhouse, (Mrs. Cambell, Mrs, Ketchem and the spouse of A.N. Rundio had been sisters, the daugs. of Mollie, a dau. of JAMES MARR, Gratiot Co., MI) finish of article

One other brief article in one other DGS e-newsletter gave the data that John Marr was born in Higher Mount Bethel Township, Northamption County, Pennsylvania, 1 September, 1800, son of John and Barbara (Brooks) of Pennsylvania and Markham Township, York County, Ontario. He married in Markham 31 December 1822 to Esther Noble, daughter of Stephen and Ester (Smith) Noble who got here there from West Springfield, Massachusetts. John Marr got here to Howell, Michigan in 1839. So who was their progenitor, Lawrence Marr?

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William Marr Sr. was my ancestor. In response to the U.S. and Worldwide Marriage Information,1560-1900, he was born in 1732 and married Ann (often known as Anna L.) in 1764. He was a Non-public for the Pennsylvania Militia throughout the Revolutionary Struggle. He died on February 4th, 1789 in Northampton, Pa. His son William Jr.  (together with the brothers talked about above) did to migrate to Markham, Canada in 1801. I posted about their journey for Week 28 – “Journey” right here.

When you’re a fan of the TV present Outlander, you’ve got heard of the Earl of Mar. He is without doubt one of the actual life characters featured within the present. He’s described as “a Jacobite whom Jamie corresponds with. An aged, courtly man, he’s essentially the most revered of the Scottish Jacobites in Paris and had been the first supporter of King James throughout the first Rising in 1715.”  Other than corresponding with lead character Jamie, the outline is traditionally appropriate. 

The Global Today #52 Ancestors Week 33 - "Household Legend" | The Global Today
John Erskine, twenty third Earl of Mar (1st creation)

That is the place it will get complicated for me, to not point out far fetched. In response to one Marr household legend, Lawrence Marr is the brother of that Earl of Mar. The next description is from “The Longpoint Settlers; Sketch XXV – The Earl of Marr, The Marrs and the Lemons of Longpoint” …

“It’s stated the Earl of Mar who led the rebellion in 1715 was a bachelor, and left a positive property within the neighborhood of Paisley, County of Renfrew; and it’s stated Lawrence was the one brother who married and had youngsters. It’s upon this situation of issues that the descendants of Lawrence Marr base their expectations of receiving a fortune. It has value them a substantial sum already by the use of investigations, and the probabilities are that, after incurring extra expenditure, the fortune will nonetheless ” be acomin’,” as is the case with the fortunes of so a lot of our outdated households. As earlier than acknowledged, there’s good circumstantial proof in favor of the declare. Lawrence is claimed to be the title of the lacking inheritor, and Lawrence was the title of the grand-ancestor of the household in America, and, in keeping with a household custom, he was a refugee from his place of birth on account of his participation within the Highland Revolt. David Marr, the outdated Norfolk pioneer, had in his possession, it’s stated, a pair of huge silver knee-buckles and a pair of silver shoe-buckles which had belonged to his father; and if these silver trappings had been worn by him within the Highlands, it could signify a social standing a number of levels above the commonalty of the Highland peasantry.”

You may learn the entire story with supply annotations here. There are two potential ancestry traces which were claimed as belonging to Lawrence Marr, the opposite within the footnotes.

I grew up being vaguely conscious of the “we’re descendants of the Earl of Mar” story. It is reassuring to notice that there have been many different people who had been raised with the identical tall story. Here is what I do know for certain. My nice grandmother and nice grandfather had tea with the Countess and Earl of Mar! My aunt remembers the story effectively, however not precisely the place it came about. We discovered the date will need to have been earlier than World Struggle 2. Her grandparents, Dr. and Mrs. Delaski Marr, had been in Europe round 1937 -1938. Previous to their journey my nice grandmother wrote a letter to the esteemed couple saying that they might be travelling to England, and requested if they might go to the citadel. They obtained a response with an invite to come back for tea! The Earl of Mar at the moment will need to have been Walter Erskine and his spouse Girl Violet Ashton-Cooper. Their ancestral home is in Scotland, however my aunt’s reminiscence is that that they had tea at a citadel within the south of England, possibly Devon. There are various castles within the space, however I don’t know which one it may need been.

I am certain that my nice grandparents weren’t the primary to method the sitting Earl of Mar and see if they might come for a go to. Nothing ventured, nothing gained, proper? They have to pay attention to the story of Lawrence Marr and his descendants. With the accessibility and recognition of DNA testing, it could appear to be a comparatively (pardon the pun) simple thriller to resolve as soon as and for all. On there’s a rising DNA circle for William Marr, Jr. and Sr. That is one step away from Lawrence. If anyone needs to tackle the science, I am in!

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